thread well we're committed to almost total transport decarbonisation by 2045
which implies total extinction of the ICE in the UK, which in turn means that unless we drastically change the nature of vehicle ownership, everywhere that a car was parked last night there needs to be a charger

I'm not promoting lamp posts as technically suited, just an item of street furniture that could be used as housing rather than taking up even more pavement space. Bins, bollards, anything you could potentially get a charging circuit into, it will all need to be used. All points on expense and difficulty acknowledged. Councils come very quickly on board with anything that gets them revenue.

It's either that or hydrogen fuel cells, which nobody seems hugely keen on yet (though I have an inkling Honda may be about to change opinion on that in the way Tesla has).
permalink I'd question the idea that they need to be charged
Every night. With a 200 mile range (and by 2047 surely well be up over 300-400) you'll be charging half the cars less than once per week.

My thinking is that most people use their cars to go somewhere and putting power in that somewhere is going to be much easier than doing every street in the country

But yes youd also hope car ownership model has radically shifted by that time as well.
permalink they don't need to be charged every night at all, no
but in order to persuade people to move from ICE to EV you need to take the baseline that, as with ICE, everyone expects to be able to charge and travel freely. In the same respect as cars spend 95% of the time switched off and sitting still, yet that doesn't mean we can get rid of 19 out of 20 cars.

I might not need my car tomorrow to do anything more than go to the supermarket, but I want to be able to drive to Lands End if I suddenly decide to - and that is the consumer expectation, based on what they already have, and the evidence is very very few people are willing to concede on that flexibility, as that is one of the main reasons people have for owning personal transportation over using public transport
permalink I tend to agree with this.
Supermarkets, stations, shopping centres, hotels, city centre car parks... these are places people drive to and spend long enough at to get a decent charge in. All monetisable too.
permalink Nobody will need to own a car
once self-driving uber-style takes off. It'll be cost-effective and convenient, you'll never have to charge it or clean it or repair it.
permalink We are on the same wavelength
I think there's a massive opportunity for someone in coming up with what will become the "standard" object... in a range of form factors, housing the same guts and interface. Pole-mount for lighting columns, signposts, etc, self-contained in a bollard, wall-mounting box, etc... and in a way that can easily take "clip-on" (not literally) trims for pseudo-historical styling (like the lamp-posts on University Avenue round your way... those are a simple tubular steel pole with the usual hatch containing the fused cut-out etc, then with a FUCKING HUGE stuck-on decoratuve cover in two halves stuck on it.

At the moment, there are loads of different designs, mostly ugly, and not in any way comaptible with other street furniture or able to be integrated into a pleasingly coherent streetscape.

Just round the corner from here are the biggest ugliest iones I've seen yet. Must take a photo.


(oh.. and those poles on University Aveneue... people think they're proper Victoriana... I remember them being installed when I was at Uni in about 1989...)
permalink Of course there's extremists
who would like to get rid of almost every on-street parking space. One of the worst public policy non-decisions was allowing it in the first place

*waves*