thread I used to drink that all the time.
Never liked Guinness, and Harp can fuck off.

Thank fuck there's a proper selection of beers in Ireland these days. It was literally the Big Three when I was a kid, with Murphy or Beamish instead of Guinness if you were in Cork.
permalink Oh aye, same here
But I could never stand Smithwicks. Always tasted like a bitter with half a bag of sugar chucked in. Until I developed a taste for Guinness, I used to drink lager
permalink I doubt if I'd like Smithwicks these days,
now that I've drunk deep of proper craft ales and lagers in the UK.

But it was the best of a bad lot back in the day. Even then though, beer was fuckloads better in the UK than Ireland; at least there was stuff like Newky Brown, London Pride and Timothy Taylor Best Landlord
permalink Beer was always better in the UK
due to the continued existence of real ale. CAMRA don't get the thanks they deserve. Beer drinking started properly once I made to Blighty in 95
permalink This.
Very, very much this.
permalink Indeed (and both Amy and I are paid up members)
However I disapprove of their recent decision to exclude any sort of craft beer in their remit.

I mean they have cider.
permalink In all fairness
craft ale doesn't need any help at the moment (at least if London is anything to go by).
permalink isn't it that they get really shitty about keg rather than cask
or vice versa?
permalink yep pretty much
permalink I'm on the other side
they were set up to protect the existence of cask ale against the desires of the big breweries in moving to types of beer with better profit margins/lower spoilage

after a brief resurgence cask ale is again in decline, whereas keg is on the ascendancy and bring pushed by big breweries in preference to cask because it's easier to keep

so in terms of CAMRA being a lobbying group to keep alive traditional british beer types that would otherwise go extinct due to commercial pressures, I think it's good that they are maintaining that focus - keg doesn't really need that support

similarly they protect 'real' cider/perry against the economics of big breweries wanting artificially carbonated ciders that last longer

so even as a lover of both cask and keg, I think that cask needs supporting against keg, as otherwise we'll only have keg - it's not that keg isn't 'real' ale
permalink i agree, but there is a bit of a crisis
of 'fake' craft beer, where the big guys are putting out middling quality IPAs and calling it craft beer and buying up smaller breweries to consolidate them etc.... this is a different fight but one they should be helping with. SIBA are trying but if camra were willing and able to help smaler breweries "Camra certified craft beer" or whatever it could help a lot.
permalink Entirely agreed
They pretty much saved decent beer in this country back in the 70s and 80s, but they need to move on a bit...
permalink the Cambridge branch being highly rebellious
had a keg bar at the summer beer festival.
permalink splitters!
permalink Those goddamned
crazy muthafuckers!