thread this is basically at the highest point
there is a pub there but I dont think that was causing the problems.

foresters arms on the loughton side is worth pausing at if you are near.
permalink I didn't go that far north...
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permalink Sensible... There be dragons and all that
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permalink it's always pretty ugly up there.. pandemic or not
the wedding receptions held up there full of blinged orange people with their curious hair is pretty funny though