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So who else is doing Dry January?

I'm on Day 10 (yeah, I didn't start on NYD), and feeling fine. The occasional jazz cigarette helps, but I'm not missing teh BOOXE at all. Oh no.

AQ - what's your prediction for the vote tonight?

I drew 187 against May in the office, but I'd predict 66...

MickDublin | 15th Jan '19 18:34

you mean she'll win or 66 tory rebels?

my guess is lose by a margin of about 170

meepmeep | 15th Jan '19 19:29

We are living

in interesting times.

MickDublin | 15th Jan '19 20:59

it's enough

to turn you to drink

meepmeep | 16th Jan '19 0:02

Wow 230

that is impressive. At this point, I actually don't know what's going on. Is this still the incredibly long poker game to ensure it doesn't happen, or are they just a bunch of disorganised fuckwits. It's so hard to tell.

scoffcruddle | 15th Jan '19 19:53

there's no master plan on either side

Tessa just wants everyone to shut up and let her be captain of the hockey team and is happy if there are no brown people

Jezza just wants to shovel in the socialist paradise even if it's composed of mud farmers eking out existence from the ashes of society

My money is still on eventual remain purely because that's where the parliamentary brains are, although the Bastards are going to get their time in the sun first. Starmer and Grieve will save us all, but it's going to take a while.

meepmeep | 15th Jan '19 20:09

Hopefully two casualties of this shitshow

will be both Theresa and Jezza (the twat)

scoffcruddle | 15th Jan '19 20:13

Also, I don't know who's responisble for this potatoshop

But it is truly terrifying

https://i1.wp.com/medi...

scoffcruddle | 16th Jan '19 4:37

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Al | 16th Jan '19 7:43

like it

rigby | 16th Jan '19 10:42

corbyn has been such a disappointment but i'm suprised his crapness has been allowed

to continue.. i mean after the first year it was pretty obvious he couldn't do the job
if he'd fucked off then who knows where we'd be now
labour in power and the the tories self imploding to nothingness.. and of course none of this silly brexit stuff

rigby | 16th Jan '19 10:41

it was basically impossible to critisise corbyn until about 6 months ago

without being labelled as some sort of tory scum.

It'd be interesting to see how all those people who joined labour to elect him are feeling about it now.

alistair | 16th Jan '19 10:47

oh i was doing it to friends but more importantly any labour rosette wearers

i'd see.. it reminded me of being pre-teen & talking to religious enthusiasts that believed the bible word for word and how easy that is to dismantle

rigby | 16th Jan '19 10:59

I still feel like I did the right thing.

We were never going to get David Milliband, so JC was the next best thing, and he's given Labour a right kick up the arse, it's been one the best things to happen to Labour for years.

However, he is so not the right leader to take them into a General Election, and as they're going to lose the no confidence vote this afternoon anyway, they now have the time to sort themselves out a new leader.

MickDublin | 16th Jan '19 12:54

I don't see what the great kick up the arse achieved

They are more divided, the unions have as much control, they look unelectable to me.

And Diane abbot.

alistair | 16th Jan '19 14:26

is there a problem with unions taking part in democracy?

and they have been a very powerful aid for labour

rigby | 16th Jan '19 16:14

I don't think it's right that large organisations

have written-in-stone rights to control a major political power.

The fact it's a union maybe makes it slightly better (eg i'd also think it'd be odd if the CBI had such rights in directing tory policy etc)

I mean what's wrong with one-person-one-vote and all that. If a union member wanted to cede their vote to the union then fine, but now they are effectively doubling up.

basically parliament wasn't built to deal well with parties controlling blocs of MPs.. having third parties, who have no responibility to wider society, control those parties is worse

alistair | 16th Jan '19 17:14

You don't think it's right

That the party created by unions to represent the interests of workers in parliament is heavily influenced by the unions?

Al | 17th Jan '19 12:47

I think that if we are to have a credible opposition

they shouldn't be controlled by other groups who have self interest (less that 10% of people in the UK are in unions EDIT:6% are in unions affiliated with Labour)

I dont really care if that's labour or not, but right now it'd be easier to sort out labour than invent a new party.

alistair | 17th Jan '19 13:08

where you going to find funding?

Al | 17th Jan '19 22:08

because the tory party

have hell of a lot of funding from the people that want to destroy workers rights, whether those workers are unionised or not.

Al | 17th Jan '19 22:43

He was supposed to shake things up a bit then fuck off after a year

I don't think anyone actually expected him to be around this long.

Chaotic_illuminator | 16th Jan '19 14:54

yeah... did anyone tell him this?

or remember neil kinnock?

i mean 80% of his MPs voted to remove him as leader and he's still there. he doesn't strike me as the sort to take a sublte hint.

alistair | 16th Jan '19 17:23

The idea that David Milliband

Would have won when Ed didn't is one of the weirder delusions

Al | 16th Jan '19 15:47

david could eat a sandwich without looking like a total moron

sometimes this counts for something.

but it wouldn't have taken much improvement to limit the tories a bit more and perhaps mean the referendum was in a different form / had some sensible provisions in the event of a close result etc.

alistair | 16th Jan '19 17:21

This, basically.

He's a far better poltician than his brother. And he's less... dorky.

MickDublin | 16th Jan '19 18:14

He'd have been just as destroyed

By the same anti-Semitic press

Al | 17th Jan '19 12:48

I joined to oppose JC and support Owen Smith

how different it might have been if the opposition leader had been pro-EU

meepmeep | 16th Jan '19 13:10

I deeply dislike JC's european position

I sincerely believe that had Owen Smith won, Theresa May wouldn't even have called that election, but even if she had, she would have strengthened her majority

Al | 18th Jan '19 7:02

Parliament's really exciting but I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF IT MEANS.

I'm on day 1700*. It gets much easier.

*ish. I last had a drink** at a friend's wedding in May 2014, but don't know the actual day.

** Communion wine doesn't count, but I really wish they wouldn't occasionally fail to water down the sherry.

cowjam | 15th Jan '19 21:30

I'm just now picturing a drunk god with a scottish accent sitting leaning over the edge of a cloud

slurring...

"gowan, take a drink.. huv a we dram"
"gabriel, this fulla's no having a drink... "
"aww get it in yeah.. take a drink"

but well done

alistair | 16th Jan '19 9:16

when i was an altar boy the priest was always at the sherry

which made our life a lot easier.. grumpy fuckingBastard

rigby | 16th Jan '19 10:44

I liked this snippet from the BBC live feed

"a ten minute rule bill will be introduced by Conservative MP Vicky Ford (it's about banning low-level letterboxes), before MPs begin to debate a motion of no confidence in the government."

priorities.

alistair | 16th Jan '19 12:03

good one vicky

hopefully next she turns her stern gaze next towards gillette and vegan rolls

rigby | 16th Jan '19 12:10

why is everyone annoyed at gillette?

this has passed me by

alistair | 16th Jan '19 12:47

It turns out

men could get something better

theduke | 16th Jan '19 12:54

Actually,

I think it's a great ad. It's annoyed an awful lot of broflakes, which helps.

MickDublin | 16th Jan '19 12:55

I knew nothing about it

until I saw that Piers Morgan had shot hs bolt over it so that instantly means it's a Good Thing(tm)

witchy | 16th Jan '19 14:21

I'm still clueless and have no wish to

Actively seek out an advert to watch

alistair | 16th Jan '19 14:28

i found out about it this morning (first time on twitter for ages)

if you type in gillette on youtube the first thing that comes up is an article from the guardian (i think) over images of the ad
then the last seconds of what seemed to be men just being nice

i also found out 'Africa' by toto is a big thing on the internet, people get excited by the most banal things

rigby | 16th Jan '19 16:21

This is a much better version:-

https://www.youtube.co...

MickDublin | 17th Jan '19 12:40

There's a gillette ad which basically says

"Boys being boys" isn't sufficient justification for being a bully or a sex pest. Knock that shit off and grow up. Try actually bettering yourself.

Man-child sex pests and bullies of the word are using this as an opportunity to out themselves as man-child sex pests and bullies.

Edit: what with that and the remain HSBC billboard ads it's almost like someone in adland has said "Hey, how about we get a bit political? Do you think that'd work?"

cowjam | 17th Jan '19 21:03

yes but it indicates something that gets overlooked by the media

in that for the past 2 years our legislative processes have been completely stuffed by the sheer volume of brexity shite coming through the pipes, business as usual is barely getting through

I was told in 2016 by a civil servant that it was useless lobbying for the next 2 years because there simply wasn't the possibility of getting anything before parliament

yesterday the house was jeering at Leadsom as she tried to get an energy conservation bill squeezed in before the no confidence motion...like the normal running of the country just doesn't matter any more to these folk

meepmeep | 16th Jan '19 12:24

yep

apparently posties have been campaigning for this since 1958

alistair | 16th Jan '19 12:38

Nope

But I am having a "drink a bit less in the second half of the month" January, if that helps.

scoffcruddle | 15th Jan '19 21:42

i listened to some talk radio last night (which i'd avoided for sanity reasons)

to check the flavour of oi polloi's madness over the vote

still after all this time idiots were regurgitating lies (and some famously exposed ones) .. just a wash of anger

had to laugh.. what a fucking mess.. fail better

rigby | 16th Jan '19 10:54

I hate the way the Beeb keep on trotting out

'...the British public voted to leave the EU...'

NO THEY FUCKING DIDN'T!

MickDublin | 16th Jan '19 13:32

A majority of those who voted did.

cowjam | 20th Jan '19 19:29

but that wasn't the majority of the UK

by any demographic. Especially as many yooves of today had no say then, and those "british citizens" living abroad didn't get a vote either. It was not representative or nonpartisan.

jiva | 21st Jan '19 10:13

...and we've just gone over

'Remain Saturday' where the demographic has shifted with enough leavers dying and enough yooves coming into voting age. 2nd ref would be interesting.

witchy | 21st Jan '19 11:40

Does it account for people shifting to 'leave'

because 'remain' are glorifying the deaths of leave voters?

cowjam | 21st Jan '19 12:31

Who's glorifying anything?

I'm merely quoting statistististics.

witchy | 21st Jan '19 18:46

Not you, but the "fact"* is being used in that way

and is turning some people's opinions.

* The fact is based on the false presumption that everyone would vote/abstain in exactly the same way, and that the 'new' voters would vote as previous 18-20 year olds. That's actually contradictory - it's assuming people of a fixed age would vote a certain way and that people of a fixed age wouldn't have changed their voting patter from two years ago.

So it's just bollocks, innit.

cowjam | 21st Jan '19 22:00

But the quote isn't "the majority of all british citizens voted to leave"

cowjam | 21st Jan '19 12:34

but the British public

didn't all vote

jiva | 21st Jan '19 13:37

Which was their choice, so the British public [who voted] voted to leave the EU.

Imagine the referendum question had three answers, "Yes", "No", and "I don't care". "No" won, narrowly beating "Yes" and significantly beating "I don't care". The "I don't care" option wasn't on the paper though, it was simply a matter of not turning out to vote.

Those who didn't vote aren't some hard done by group, they're not a mystery that should somehow be factored in with the Yes or the No. They exercised their democratic right not to vote.

So "that wasn't a majority of the UK by any demographic" is wrong. It's a majority by the demographic of "those who voted" and also "the total electorate".

The anger here is entirely misplaced. It should all be directed at the conservatives, who spend the poor for the benefit of the rich and are quite happy to have scapegoated the EU for the social ills they have caused and aren't bothered about misery and hardship for the many if it benefits the few.

cowjam | 22nd Jan '19 7:16

according to John Curtice on R4 right now

(who comes from a very august institution so must know what he's talking about)

the swing in polling towards a remain result in a second referendum is predominantly due to people who didn't vote the first time now having an opinion, and would vote now, and those people being 2:1 remain:leave

which doesn't undermine your point at all, but I thought it interesting

meepmeep | 22nd Jan '19 13:31

That's actually a good fact.

And interesting. And doesn't hint of "we'll win in the end because you're all going to die".

cowjam | 22nd Jan '19 17:04

youre again

excluding those who were too young, those unable to vote due to arbitrary rules and other factors. It won't be fully representative until you ask in a full census

jiva | 23rd Jan '19 10:23

That's the case with any vote though,

so it falls into Cowjam's other explanation. Meep's makes more sense to me than 'yes but some people didn't vote!!!!11'

amerella | 23rd Jan '19 10:29

Those all appear to be straw men.

"too young" is an innumerable number. You have to draw a line otherwise there won't actually be a vote because you're always going to exclude some people due to age who are old enough to vote by the time the action happens.

What "arbitrary rules" are you on about? Do you mean the 0.13% of the population who are in prison? The UK has an easy to join and easy to use voting system, what exactly is the problem with it?

cowjam | 23rd Jan '19 22:33

the result of the referendum

was that the country is incredibly divided on the issue

and so the way forward would have been to create citizen's juries and cross-party commissions to investigate the matter further, and to determine if a consensus option exists (such as remaining but with specific additional protections, or leaving but with ring-fenced legislation copied across)

Of course, that would have required an eventual admission that people mostly voted on the basis of domestic policies such as austerity, so was never going to happen.

meepmeep | 21st Jan '19 15:30

that would also

mean them doing something useful instead of pocketing taxpayers money to fund their duck ponds.

jiva | 21st Jan '19 16:51

That presumes that referenda aren't a tool for getting the public

to think they made a decision.

cowjam | 21st Jan '19 21:52

No they didn't.

You're missing the point. It wasn't a constitutional referendum; they didn't vote to leave the EU. Some of the British public expressed an opinion, that's all. And the Beeb (and *not* ITV) keep expressing it in such a way as to make one think it was a a hard and fast, binding vote.

MickDublin | 24th Jan '19 8:28

I'm with Mick on this

I know someone who voted leave to stick it to Cameron nothing else.

jiva | 24th Jan '19 9:43

yes

it's important to note that had it been a binding referendum, there is no way the question as presented would have got past the Electoral Commission, because one option did not have a clear legislative outcome.

Because, as is the whole nub of the clusterfuck, as soon as you actually try to define Brexit, nobody likes it anymore.

meepmeep | 24th Jan '19 10:17

very much

this.

witchy | 24th Jan '19 11:46

Big Engineering somewhere near Peterborough, or Newark, or somewhere...

...means that Edinburgh-KX tonight is due to take 6 hours 8 mins.

I'll be on the verge of insanity when I get there.

I do however have food, wine and internet.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 17:06

That sucks

Almost as much as me having to go back to work this morning. Fuck. That. Shit.

scoffcruddle | 13th Jan '19 18:14

Christ... you've done well to string it out this far!

I have a day of insanity tomorrow.

Westminster Abbey at 9-11, then to Broadgate for 12, via the office near Old St to pick something up, out of Broadgate at 13.30, and up to Farringdon for 14.00, until 17.30.

Then home to collapse.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 18:26

Well, xmas break is more of a big thing here

What with it essentially being summer holidays. Most people take 2 weeks, quite a lot 3 or more. I took an extra week (unpaid) just cos my branes needed a break after the shitstorm of last year. Back at my desk now though, feeling like I never left!

scoffcruddle | 13th Jan '19 20:19

ah.. yes.

That makes seasonal sense.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 22:35

It's almost like the weather knew!

Been mixed weather over the break, but lots of sunshine, and general mid 20s. Yesterday: pissing rain and 17°

scoffcruddle | 14th Jan '19 18:17

You get to go via Cambridge

So that's nice

Al | 13th Jan '19 19:10

Do I?

Lovely.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 19:40

are you on an HST

or one of the electrics? If the latter (power doors, not lean out ones) you'll be getting a diesel loco hooked up to the front at Peterborough

Al | 13th Jan '19 20:23

as illustrated

here

Al | 13th Jan '19 20:24

and whilst I'm at it

this shows what's going on on the bit you're going round

Al | 13th Jan '19 20:25

electric

(they mostly are, but I do end up on an HST occasionally... god that rolling stock is showing its age.)

I look forward to this exciting diversion and will wave at Witchy and you as I pass.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 20:32

Peterborough.

Awaiting diesel couplage.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 20:56

Keep talking dirty,

I’m nearly there.

MickDublin | 13th Jan '19 21:45

Oh yeah baby

The big, potent engine is relentlessly pounding its way...

Sorry, I can't be arsed. Hope that was enough.

Chaotic_illuminator | 13th Jan '19 22:28

Who doesn't love being shunted

By a big dirty engine?

scoffcruddle | 13th Jan '19 23:48

Aaaaaaaand

I'm done.

MickDublin | 14th Jan '19 8:29

Damn

And I was just ready to start making Ivor the Engine sound effects too.

scoffcruddle | 14th Jan '19 17:45

*lubes up*

MickDublin | 14th Jan '19 18:19

Morning.

I set up a thing at work that checks emails in a certain account then forwards them on to specific addresses.

It got into a bit of a tizz at the weekend. An email got stuck, so was being forwarded every five minutes. At least one mailserver didn't like that so sent a warning back, which also got forwarded on every five minutes, along with the warnings that kept on coming back.

When it got to over 4000 our host shut us down because it thought we were sending spam.

cowjam | 14th Jan '19 7:32

MFC.exe?

....

Chaotic_illuminator | 14th Jan '19 16:59

haha.. i thought you'd learnt your lesson with emails

rigby | 14th Jan '19 17:58

The funny thing is the error messages

that cause the problem were "You're sending too many emails at the moment so we're delaying sending this one."

cowjam | 15th Jan '19 9:13

6 hrs sounds ok to me

it's like 600km away isn't it?
anyway sounds like you had a proper picnic with you

rigby | 14th Jan '19 17:56

it normally takes 4h15 though

...

alistair | 15th Jan '19 9:19

4.15 to 4.45, depending, but definitely not usually 6.08

It was a bit interminable.

Chaotic_illuminator | 15th Jan '19 10:34

Whatever happened to vbloke here?

He just posted a recipe on Reddit, and I think it might be a work of art

or an abomination. I can't decide.

Soreen bread and butter pudding

linnaen | 9th Jan '19 4:42

i vote abomination

but then i'm not a bread and butter pudding fan.. and dont' really like sorreen.

the only B&B pudding i ever liked was made with croissants and double cream... it was a cafe that used left over breakfast croissants... and a shitload of cream.

alistair | 9th Jan '19 8:36

I'll have your portion then.

Soreen is fab and b&b pud is yum too. Not sure I'd combine the two but I'd definitely give it the taste test.

mizemma | 10th Jan '19 21:27

^^ this ^^

You bunch of heathens

bananaman | 11th Jan '19 21:30

I'm with alistair

Morning.

cowjam | 9th Jan '19 9:04

I'm with you both.

Morning all.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 9:27

oh.. i wasn't expecting company

*ties up dressing gown*

alistair | 9th Jan '19 9:48

*climbs quietly back into wardrobe*

.....

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 12:48

hmmm.

btw i am in a bit of a man-flu induced youtube binge, i can imagine you enjoying this pleasingly angry electrical engineer.
https://www.youtube.co...

a random selection
https://www.youtube.co...

alistair | 9th Jan '19 14:26

Ooooh.... I'll have a look at him later!

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 15:09

It looks like

a square sausage lasagne.

amerella | 9th Jan '19 9:41

now you're talking.

alistair | 9th Jan '19 9:48

shit yes.

I may have to make that sometime.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 12:49

I'd wait

until you're ready to die.

amerella | 9th Jan '19 14:15

Die happy

Though

Al | 9th Jan '19 15:23

I could take that on.

With training and preparation.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 16:25

Is the sausage replacing the meat

Or the pasta?

meepmeep | 9th Jan '19 16:34

possibly both,.

.....

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 16:40

with nice thick slices of cheese in between.

oven baked.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 16:41

Then battered and deep-fried

obvs

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 16:46

or in a pie casing

instead of the usual macaroni / mutton

alistair | 9th Jan '19 17:09

To my mind,

the sausage replaces the meat, but the final layer is meat.

amerella | 9th Jan '19 16:51

I think it's

meat, pasta, cheese, repeat to desired depth.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 16:56

This calls for a bash

meepmeep | 9th Jan '19 16:58

I'll bring

the defibrilator.

amerella | 9th Jan '19 17:28

Cheese sauce, cheese on top.

Otherwise it's not lasagne.

amerella | 9th Jan '19 17:04

I meant cheese sauce. I'm not a complete heathen.

I think it should be a very very cheesy sauce though.

Chaotic_illuminator | 9th Jan '19 17:19

No, just no.

Don't like Soreen, don't like BBP, though I used to make a cheese and bacon savoury BBP which was ALL teh lovely.

MickDublin | 9th Jan '19 12:37

I think I boiked at that on FB

I'm not a great fan of B&BP, and whilst I do love malt loaf, not in a B&BP thank you very much

scoffcruddle | 9th Jan '19 20:14

do you have a link?

i do like soreen squidgy goodness*.. toasted on one side with butter
though i'd prefer a proper jamacian spiced bun

*quite high in protein

rigby | 9th Jan '19 20:34

Toasted malt loaf

what madness is this? Doesn't that destroy the squishiness?

scoffcruddle | 9th Jan '19 20:43

toasted malt loaf is amazing

bit like a hot cross bun or currant teacake.

new_matt | 9th Jan '19 20:54

indeed.. it's all about the textures and mouth feel

and at the moment at 50p a loaf.. quite a bargain

rigby | 10th Jan '19 15:08

snow!

snow everywhere.

disclaimer: may be somewhere colder than UK

meepmeep | 9th Jan '19 21:09

Colombia?

alistair | 9th Jan '19 22:37

not quite, but one of their key export areas

Zurich. This evening we were taken to an all-you-can-eat veggie indian buffet place. I say all you can eat, once I filled my first plate I was directed to place it on a set of scales which printed me a receipt. £24. There was no second plate.

Yesterday I was taken to an all-you-can-eat veggie indian buffet place in London. £7. No scales. Infinite plates. Better food.

meepmeep | 10th Jan '19 21:23

Ahhh. Switzerland.

Amazing, beautiful country.

Unfortunately inhabited by the Swiss, who are an utter bunch of cunts.

Chaotic_illuminator | 11th Jan '19 8:19

See I'd agree that almost all the Swiss I've met outside Switzerland

have been nobbers

But almost everyone I've met here on my several trips have been lovely

Although all Swiss children/teenagers appear to be spoilt brats, which is possibly why they still have national service

meepmeep | 11th Jan '19 10:59

the teenagers slinging drugs usually have a waft of 80's americana suburbs

about them
it's quite humorous in a repoMan kind of way

rigby | 14th Jan '19 18:02

in that sense, aren't all restaurants "all you can eat"

I mean you can order as much as you like in most places.

alistair | 11th Jan '19 8:34

Yeah I was just mis-sold

And a buffet by weight is obviously to be faced with planning and tactics

meepmeep | 11th Jan '19 11:01

they're really popular in Brazil

beans and meat are cheap, but pretty heavy and filling. Kilo restaurants.

new_matt | 11th Jan '19 11:53

the veggie aspect is a twist

i suspect i'd be goingheavy on bhajis and samosas, then your masalla chaat type bean curries.

and then chapatis perhaps over rice... tough call.

i might have to try a few different stratetgies

alistair | 11th Jan '19 12:48

Having spent yesterday dibbling about a snowy alp

And returning to somewhere that now seems very cheap, I may just have rendered the Heathrow T5 Wagamama temporarily out of stock

meepmeep | 12th Jan '19 15:08

I don't remember eating this.

Found in our toilet this evening.

linnaen | 10th Jan '19 9:46

Cute!

amerella | 10th Jan '19 10:50

have you named it?

Chaotic_illuminator | 10th Jan '19 11:53

I've spent the last half an hour trying to think of reptile /poop

Pun names

But I've failed... If it was a stick insect I might have something...

If it was posted on social media maybe the sub headline could be "you know those nature documentary pictures where the alligator looks like a log..."

alistair | 10th Jan '19 14:41

He's a monitor lizard

So you could ask if he was monitoring my "movements".

linnaen | 12th Jan '19 9:37

I think yer bog needs

de-scaling

meepmeep | 12th Jan '19 15:09

Dammit

alistair | 12th Jan '19 15:35

First day back at work

Everything is on fire.

Thankfully, metaphorically

Al | 7th Jan '19 13:40

Especially given the sort of substances you're presumably surrounded by.

....

Chaotic_illuminator | 7th Jan '19 14:41

I am enjoying day 2 of extra week of holiday

Even better, it's going to be a sunny 26° today, rather than drizzling like yesterday. Does, however, mean I need to get fuckloads done in the garden. Oh well...

scoffcruddle | 7th Jan '19 19:21

yesterday i sent some books to nz

worked out about 3 times their initial cost.. when the hell did THAT happen
these post companies are raking it in and with amazon* and online buying in general they're making a killing

*the recent southpark episodes on amazon were brilliant

rigby | 8th Jan '19 9:09

shipping stuff is expensive

and i dint think anyone thinks that bok publishers are raking it in with amazon.

but, they still make south park?

alistair | 8th Jan '19 9:34

Yup

Shipping anything remotely heavy has become ridiculously expensive

scoffcruddle | 8th Jan '19 10:27

Especially if air transport is involved

Weight directly means fuel means cost

Al | 8th Jan '19 12:02

happy ELVIS day!

rigby | 8th Jan '19 9:10

A bit too much red wine last night

on top of the white wine and the beers.

Oops.

Chaotic_illuminator | 6th Jan '19 10:49

First alcohol free Saturday

for quite literally decades - normally it's 2 or 3 cocktails followed by 1.5 - 2 bottles of wine. Nice to wake up with a clear head this morning, though I woke ravenously hungry, presumable because I'd had 800-1200 fewer calories than usual. We also tried some of those alcohol free drinks - G&T flavoured pop and the like, and they just gave me horrible reflux. Tea it is then, for the next 29 days.

/rolls spliff

MickDublin | 6th Jan '19 14:56

check this guys overview

he does abot 20 all in i think https://www.youtube.co...

rigby | 6th Jan '19 22:42

I'm reliably informed

the Brew Dog Nanny State stuff is good if you like that sort of thing. Although really, as you say, the benefits of not drinking like a middle-class wanker is the massive drop in calories.

new_matt | 7th Jan '19 9:10

Nanny State is ALL

the lovely as long as you like hoppy ales. Adnams Ghost Ship is excellent even on tap and tesco do a 'cider' by Sheppeys which is fucking lovely. My local now does 3 different types of alcohol free, yay them.

witchy | 7th Jan '19 10:10

Big Drop is also good.

Ghost Ship isn't low alcohol...

amerella | 7th Jan '19 10:31

big drop stout gets recommended all the time

and even made silver up against 'real' stouts!
it's a quid at tescos at the moment

rigby | 7th Jan '19 13:12

Alcohol free Ghost Ship is ;)

£1.30 in tesco and if you're feeling flush £4 fucking 40 in the Old Ticket Office in Cambridge Station.

witchy | 7th Jan '19 16:00

At the moment, Brewdog are also doing Raspberry Blitz

"alcohol free raspberry sour ale"

If that rocks one's boat.

Chaotic_illuminator | 7th Jan '19 11:31

TBH,

I'm not sure if I want to drink near beers. I've tasted Nanny State and hated it (and I do love a good hoppy ale), and there's one by Thornbridge that was bloody awful. I think they just make one want a proper drink. Nah, I'm going to do tea and my own homemade cordials from now until the 4th of Feb.

Like I say, having the occasional spliffette helps, even if it's a just a one-skinner, with a tiny sprinkle of hashish at the tip. Just enough to dull the pain in my foot, and give a mild buzz for a short while.

MickDublin | 7th Jan '19 13:40

Yeah... I think a lot of them are actually very good...

... but may make one pissed off that they're not the real thing. Because one is a booze-hound.

Nanny State is nice. But I understand the disappointment.

I'm only going for "Moist January"... ie definitely not dry, but hopefully less sodden than usual.

Chaotic_illuminator | 7th Jan '19 14:40

our dry january has so far just described the type of prossecco we are drinking

...

alistair | 7th Jan '19 16:13

I did not have an alcoholic beverage at all yesterday

I think, for the first time in over a month. Oops. From here on in, January is certainly not going to be dry, but maybe just moist, rather than drenched

scoffcruddle | 7th Jan '19 19:22

it's just a mindset thing

i drink them for the bitter taste after doing something physically taxing

rigby | 8th Jan '19 9:04

Finished off the belgian christmas ales last night

Now the tricky bit of returning to work that is trying to reassemble some kind of daily schedule

meepmeep | 6th Jan '19 15:00

no booze

no caffeine. Trying not to eat too much but getting dizzy easily. Not unwell as such but ehn. Think I might need extra iron and sunshine.

jiva | 6th Jan '19 18:01

my latest snack delight is a

bite of snickers and while you still have it in your mouth 2 ginger nut biscuits
if i was serving it or could be arsed it'd be a snickers ginger nut sandwich but i'm just taking the slob way out

rigby | 7th Jan '19 8:49

This flu is kicking my arse today

Feel like I was being weighed down by a hippo all night

alistair | 7th Jan '19 9:11

I think the 6 mile walk yesterday

was probably a mistake.

amerella | 7th Jan '19 11:39

We were up at 4am to drive

from Bristol to Wigan.

MrsJam stopped about 40 minutes from home and I drove the rest of the way as she was tired. Only I didn't really drive, it was more like parking and forgetting to put the handbrake on and rolling forward a bit.

There were at least three accidents, the biggest involving a couple of lorries and four cars.

cowjam | 7th Jan '19 13:21

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